Comments on: Episode 12 :: True Lies http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/ Too much of a good thing is a very good thing. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:27:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Mike http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-177 Mike Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:02:07 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-177 Phil, great show. I was in the hazardous waste business for years and Cali has double and triple the laws than most other states. It costs the producer and us in the end. I know we need to be responsible for the environment but the gov. has really hurt a lot of honest businesses. Produce and other foods are becoming tasteless and boring, I am going to do a garden this year. Mike Phil, great show. I was in the hazardous waste business for years and Cali has double and triple the laws than most other states. It costs the producer and us in the end. I know we need to be responsible for the environment but the gov. has really hurt a lot of honest businesses.
Produce and other foods are becoming tasteless and boring, I am going to do a garden this year.

Mike

]]> By: Ryan Pfeifle http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-176 Ryan Pfeifle Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:11:29 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-176 I farm wheat and barley in Montana. I have no idea what happens in California, but much of what your guest said is different in Montana. This confuses me, as I would think the federal governments help would be the same across the States. In Montana there is no big corporate incentive as your guest mentioned. All farms (even the smallest) get equivalent government subsidies up to about 40k. This means the larger farms get cut off. Also contrary to what your guest said their many programs for first time farmers and we have lots of insurance programs for failed crops. My $.02. I farm wheat and barley in Montana. I have no idea what happens in California, but much of what your guest said is different in Montana. This confuses me, as I would think the federal governments help would be the same across the States. In Montana there is no big corporate incentive as your guest mentioned. All farms (even the smallest) get equivalent government subsidies up to about 40k. This means the larger farms get cut off. Also contrary to what your guest said their many programs for first time farmers and we have lots of insurance programs for failed crops. My $.02.

]]> By: Mile High Club Sandwich http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-175 Mile High Club Sandwich Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:50:37 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-175 Shaun & Phil, This was a very good discussion, but no mention of Global Warming? This was disappointing. Farming does get a bad rap for the amount of water they use, but most use the least amount of water they can because it's so expensive and they're only given so much they can use. If they let it go too long, it will hurt the crop and they'll get a lower yield. And the land is so valuable and the cost of production is so high, they have to have high yields. If we're doing conservation to build the reservoirs back up, that's great. But if the farmers are giving up water so someone else can grow, that's different. Once you lose water, it's tough to get it back. Global Warming is real and deserves a place in this discussion. Otherwise, you wouldn't have brought water up as the main topic of your conversation. I think you were a bit shortsided in this regard. Shaun & Phil,

This was a very good discussion, but no mention of Global Warming? This was disappointing.

Farming does get a bad rap for the amount of water they use, but most use the least amount of water they can because it’s so expensive and they’re only given so much they can use. If they let it go too long, it will hurt the crop and they’ll get a lower yield. And the land is so valuable and the cost of production is so high, they have to have high yields.

If we’re doing conservation to build the reservoirs back up, that’s great. But if the farmers are giving up water so someone else can grow, that’s different. Once you lose water, it’s tough to get it back.

Global Warming is real and deserves a place in this discussion. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have brought water up as the main topic of your conversation. I think you were a bit shortsided in this regard.

]]> By: Phil http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-174 Phil Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:33:00 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-174 Everyone, thank you for all of your comments regarding the interview with Shaun. Kirk, I appreciate what you wrote very much. I recently read a really cool piece about victory gardens and how they got so popular. I wondered myself if that was going to come back into vogue one day. I grow as much as I can here myself and there definitely is a different taste to the ugly stuff from my garden. The uglier it is, the tastier it is. :-) Everyone, thank you for all of your comments regarding the interview with Shaun.

Kirk, I appreciate what you wrote very much. I recently read a really cool piece about victory gardens and how they got so popular. I wondered myself if that was going to come back into vogue one day. I grow as much as I can here myself and there definitely is a different taste to the ugly stuff from my garden. The uglier it is, the tastier it is. :-)

]]> By: Paul Ritter http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-173 Paul Ritter Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:28:34 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-173 Cool show. Cool show.

]]> By: Michelle Garnett http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-172 Michelle Garnett Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:26:01 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-172 Different kind of show this time. I liked it. There is a drive for good, local healthy food options. It's not a fad, so farming is not going to go away. Interesting to hear about the water consumption, though. The more I hear about it, the happier I am that I don't EAT MEAT. How disgusting. Different kind of show this time. I liked it. There is a drive for good, local healthy food options. It’s not a fad, so farming is not going to go away. Interesting to hear about the water consumption, though.

The more I hear about it, the happier I am that I don’t EAT MEAT. How disgusting.

]]> By: Andy Bonkowski http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-171 Andy Bonkowski Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:44:41 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-171 Very enlightening interview. Interesting to find that raising animals is less profitable than growing vegetables. Water shortage is certainly going to be an issue soon. We are using ground water at a faster rate than is being replenished. I think we will end up building pipelines for water as we now do for oil. Maybe oil will be so much less important we could actually use some of that infrastructure to pump water around. I imagine the developing countries will have a bigger problem. Some of the great rivers in China are already running dry hundreds of miles from the sea. Great show. Andy Very enlightening interview. Interesting to find that raising animals is less profitable than growing vegetables. Water shortage is certainly going to be an issue soon. We are using ground water at a faster rate than is being replenished. I think we will end up building pipelines for water as we now do for oil. Maybe oil will be so much less important we could actually use some of that infrastructure to pump water around. I imagine the developing countries will have a bigger problem. Some of the great rivers in China are already running dry hundreds of miles from the sea.

Great show.

Andy

]]> By: Bill Ripley http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-169 Bill Ripley Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:26:11 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-169 Very good interview with Shaun. And what timing too. That video that someone posted a link to last episode must have made its rounds. They recalled all the beef from that farm, and they're reporting that it may be tainted with Mad Cow Disease. Very good interview with Shaun. And what timing too. That video that someone posted a link to last episode must have made its rounds. They recalled all the beef from that farm, and they’re reporting that it may be tainted with Mad Cow Disease.

]]> By: BuBBy http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-168 BuBBy Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:33:54 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-168 Awesome episode! Awesome episode!

]]> By: Fran Voros http://zeroface.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/episode-12-true-lies/#comment-167 Fran Voros Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:11:43 +0000 http://zeroface.wordpress.com/?p=42#comment-167 I fully agree with the other posters. This show is getting very intelligent and serious, and there are some things that just need to be said. I'm glad you've taken the stance you have on this, and hope to hear more from Shaun. What you didn't hit on is the population growth we're facing in our country. If we make even less food than we're making now and have more mouths to feed, then what? Are we all going to be faced with the same crisis that they have in Africa. That may sound like a stretch, but think about it seriously. Very good show. Keep them coming. Fran I fully agree with the other posters. This show is getting very intelligent and serious, and there are some things that just need to be said. I’m glad you’ve taken the stance you have on this, and hope to hear more from Shaun.

What you didn’t hit on is the population growth we’re facing in our country. If we make even less food than we’re making now and have more mouths to feed, then what? Are we all going to be faced with the same crisis that they have in Africa. That may sound like a stretch, but think about it seriously.

Very good show. Keep them coming.

Fran

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